Introduction
This is the 4th part of “Refuting Djmntx”…………
Note:
Djmntx has a habit of posting a single question at least 10 times....
so i will not refute every question...
but if u think i have to answer his certain question, then contact me here
Questions
Q.1:
Why do Muslims agree man is flesh and spirit and still one man?
But if you apply the same principle to
God they say he is more than one god.
Genesis shows man is created in God's image..God said let US create man in OUR image.
God then formed man from the dust (flesh)
God the breathed in life (spirit)
Then man became a living soul.
man is clearly in the image of God having more than one part but is still one man...why then do Muslims say the trinity is more than one God?
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My Response:
What does it have to do with trinity??
So u r saying that God is 2 in 1 rather than 3 in 1??
Wow….Now that’s new……..
So the answer is clearly refuted…..
If man is created in God’s image then we can’t trust God….
Why??
Psalms 146:
1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul.
2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being.
3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
And Jesus Christ your Lord, Your God is called son of man!!
Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head.
Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house
Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Luk 9:44 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men.
Luk 9:22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
Jhn 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Jhn 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
Jhn 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
Jhn 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am [he], and [that] I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
So now we can’t trust God,
Well at least you can’t trust your God!!
Q.2:
Why do so many Muslims disagree with their Allah?
Allah says your God is my God and it is obvious they are not the same God many Muslims agree, if this word of Allah is not true why believe Allah at all? He would have to exist before Muhammad and yet there is no evidence of his existance until after Muhammad.
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My Response:
Oh Really??
This ignorant Trinitarian polytheist failed to understand that Jesus Christ worshipped one God only and never said he is God…..
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven” (Matthew 7:21)
“And the Father himself, which hath sent me, bore witness of Me. You have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape” (John 5:37)
“And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” (Mark 10:18)
“And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges.” (John 8:50)
“ Jesus answered them and said, “my doctrine are not Mine, but His who sent Me” (John 7:16)
“he who does not love me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent me” (John 14:24)
“For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak” (John 12:49)
“Jesus said to them, ‘My food is to do the will of Him who sent me, and to accomplish His work” (John 4:34)
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent me” (John 6:38)
“saying, ‘Father, if it is your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless, not My will, but Yours, be done” (Luke 22:42)
“I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me” (John 5:30)
“I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him” (John 13:16)
“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I” (John 14:28)
“Jesus said to them, ‘If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me” (John 8:42)
“To sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father” (Matthew 20:23)
“So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me” (John 7:16)
Q.3:
Muslims, did Allah understand the doctrine of the trinity?
The Qu'ran refers to the trinity as being polytheism. It also refers to Mary as being a part of the trinity te doctrine of the trintiy was first told by Moses int he first scriptures God gave ot man in the very creation of man who is ONE being but he was made in the image of God with both flesh and spirit. Man was not made int he image of God being a multiple being with more than one mind but a body and a spirit and being a living soul and this is ONE man. God is Father, Son and Holy spirit and is ONE God. Wy didn't Allah understand the doctrine of the trinity?
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My Response:
I have refuted his absurd claim before, and PROVED that some Christians do worship Mary (p.b.u.h)….
The answer is very simple…..
Christians never understood the true message of Jesus Christ…..
They want to believe that Jesus died on the cross and so died the world’s sins….
Now they r free to do whatever they want to do….
Eat pork, Drink alcohol, commit adultery, incest, fornication……
Was this the message of Jesus??
Just come to this world and commit suicide so that the world could live blindly without rules and regulations???
Would Jesus Christ have done all those things I mentioned???
The message of Jesus Christ will never be understood by these Trinitarians…..
Go on…..
Q.4:
Muslims, is Allah righteous perfect and sinless? Would a sinless God overlook sin? If Allah judges sin by degree doesnt that mean some sins a more agreeable with him? If Allah was perfect wouldn't any sin be too much sin? This question is located here:
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My Response:
My Lord enjoins justice, not come to this world, get circumcised and then commit suicide to protect every human being….
Allah says in Holy Quran:
[007:029] Say, “My Lord enjoins justice. In every place of worship, set your faces (and attention) towards Him. Invoke Him with sincerity and devotion, by making faith His exclusive domain. You would return to life just like He created you (the first time).”
[020:111] All heads will bow before the Eternally Alive and the Ever-lasting. Anyone carrying a burden of having committed an injustice shall fail miserably.
[072:013] “In fact, when we heard the guidance, we believed it. Thus, whoever believes in his Lord never needs to worry about his (good) deeds losing their worth. Nor shall he ever fear an injustice.”
Q.5:
Muslims, If a spirit comes to you and teaches against the word of God (scripture)?
Should you believe the spirit and deny the written word of God?
Gal.1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgjkJT1vYzL8U5JyXRZ6cjjty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070813192654AAazITt
My Response:
Which is the written word of God??
The Bible???
So u r saying a book written by many historians is a word of God???
The Bible agrees with the Muslims that it is a corrupted book!!
How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it (i.e., the bible) into a LIE. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
Lets talk about the oldest and supposedly the most original Gospel in the new testament…..
"Although there is no direct internal evidence of authorship, it was the unanimous testimony of the early church that this Gospel was written by John Mark. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1488)"
So, in reality, we don't really know whether Mark was the sole author of this Gospel or not. And since The New Testament wasn't even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to) after Jesus, then how are we to know for sure that the current "Gospel of Mark" wasn't written by some pro of Mark?
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"
Now lets talk about Gospel of John:
"The author is the apostle John, 'the disciple whom Jesus loved' (13:23; 19:26; 20:2; 21:7, 20,24). He was prominent in the early church but is not mentioned by name in this Gospel--which would be natural if he wrote it, but hard to explain otherwise. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1588)"
They claimed that it was John who wrote the Gospel, but yet, his name was not signed on his Gospel! How is it possible for us to be absolutely sure that it was indeed John who wrote the so called "Gospel of John" when "his name is not mentioned in this Gospel" so we can then take it as a 100% True Error-free Word of GOD Almighty?
This is just an example!!!!
Q.6:
Muslims is the book of Isaiah corrupt when it says the Messiah will atone for sin?
The Book of Isaiah was written 800 BC.
The DSS has the intact book of Isaiah dated 250 BC
In the Gospel of Luke Jesus teaches from the prophesies of Isaiah 53 Jesus claims this scripture is prophesy of him that he will fufill.
The Qu'ran in written in 600 AD Muhammad's book disagreesw iht the prophsies of Isiaiah
The book of Isiah we have today agrees wiht the scripture Jesus read in Luke, and the dead sea scrolls where Isaiah sas the Messiah will atone for sin.
If the book of Isaiah is corrupt now why is it the same as when Jesus refered to it?
Why is it the same as 250 years before the birth of Christ?
If this prophesy of Christ is not corrupt why is the Qu'ran teaching different than the prophets of God and Jesus?
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My Response:
How do we know that Luke is a reliable source??
Anyway, Let us see what the NIV Bible's theologians said about this book:
"The author's name does not appear in the book, but much unmistakable evidence points to Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1529)"
Again, we don't know for sure whether it was Luke or not who wrote the "Gospel of Luke" since his name doesn't appear in the Book. The Gospel itself seems to be a compromising one to the Word of GOD. Let us look at the following:
"Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, (Luke 1:3)"
Few problems with this Gospel from the quote above:
1- The author was not inspired, and knew for sure that he was not inspired by GOD Almighty to write the Book since he didn't mention about any divine inspiration, and he said "...since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning..." Where do we see GOD's inspiration in this?
2- The author wrote it for the purpose of "his most excellent Theophilus." Since when we compromise GOD Almighty and document His Holy Words for the purpose of other higher (in rank) human beings?
I say it again, I hope you see the real danger in making these assumptions when you are willing to DIE for the fact that such Gospel is the actual True Word of GOD Almighty!
Also, beside, what evidence are they talking about?! The New Testament wasn't even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to) after Jesus. So unless the Book/Gospel was signed by its author, there is no way we would know for sure that it was indeed his book from the first place, let alone considering as the True Living Word of GOD.
Q.7:
How would a Muslim lf he was misled by Allah?
14:4. And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make (the Message) clear for them. Then Allâh misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
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My Response:
First of all some other passages from the Quran need to read in order to understand the context
Surah 18:29
Say: (It is) the truth from the Lord of you (all). Then whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, let him disbelieve. Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers Fire. Its tent encloseth them. If they ask for showers, they will be showered with water like to molten lead which burneth the faces. Calamitous the drink and ill the resting-place!
Surah 73:19
Lo! This is a Reminder. Let him who will, then, choose a way unto his Lord.
These two verses show that people have free will to belive and disbeliver, and to chose the correct/straight path to God
Surah 29:69
As for those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good.
Allah is telling humans that we need to struggle hard in order to find the path to God. Allah will only guide those who actually struggle to be guided. If God has already predetermined who would go to hell and heaven without giving us free will then it would be useless for Allah to tell us to strive to be good. So God guides those who strive and put an effort to want to be guided.
Surah 39:7
If ye are thankless, yet Allah is Independent of you, though He is not pleased with thanklessness for His bondmen; and if ye are thankful He is pleased therewith for you. No laden soul will bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return; and He will tell you what ye used to do. Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts (of men).
Allah is saying that He is not pleased with those who are thankless to Him. It would not make sense for God to misguide those people intentionally without giving them free will so that they can go and do what He does not like.
Surah 45:22
And Allah hath created the heavens and the earth with truth, and that every soul may be repaid what it hath earned. And they will not be wronged.
God will judge those people according to the deeds that they have done and according to what they earned. They will not be judged unfairly.
So God judging them by what they earned shows that human beings have free will to do evil if they are judged to be evil and therefore it is no one's fault but theirs.
Surah 7:147-148
Those who deny Our revelations and the meeting of the Hereafter, their works are fruitless. Are they requited aught save what they used to do? And the folk of Moses, after (he left them), chose a calf (for worship), (made) out of their ornaments, of saffron hue, which gave a lowing sound. Saw they not that it spake not unto them nor guided them to any way ? They chose it, and became wrong-doers.
Surah 27:90
And whoso bringeth an ill-deed, such will be flung down on their faces in the Fire. Are ye rewarded aught save what ye did ?
Surah 37:38-39
Lo! (now) verily ye taste the painful doom - Ye are requited naught save what ye did -
Surah 45:15
Whoso doeth right, it is for his soul, and whoso doeth wrong, it is against it. And afterward unto your Lord ye will be brought back.
Surah 52:13-19
The day when they are thrust with a (disdainful) thrust, into the fire of hell (And it is said unto them): This is the Fire which ye were wont to deny. Is this magic, or do ye not see ? Endure the heat thereof, and whether ye are patient of it or impatient of it is all one for you. Ye are only being paid for what ye used to do. Lo! those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight, Happy because of what their Lord hath given them, and (because) their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire. (And it is said unto them): Eat and drink in health (as a reward) for what ye used to do,
Again, clearly we see that sinners are punished for what they did. It is their fault and no one else's.
Q.8:
Muslims If I say that Gabriel came to me saying that the Qu'ran is false?
And I tell you I am a prophet of God with the true message.
How do you know I am a liar? Muhammd never tested the spirit with which he spoke as the word of God instructs us to do and this spirit disagreed with the word of God and the prophets of God, this spirit claimed to be Gabriel but disagreed with what Gabriel says in the Bible.
The Bible says to test a spirit to see if it is from God and Muhamamd did not. How do Muslims test a spirit?
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AleVftslNt7._9YFGfcwfFPty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070813161917AAjPHX7
My Response:
First of all, Quran disagrees with the Bible and not the prophets…..
And as I have already PROVEN that the authors of the Bible are unknown…..
Then how could a person say that it is the word of God???
If Gabriel was other than an angel (maybe satan)…..
Then why in the world would it say in the Quran not to drink, commit adultery (if u do, there is a severe punishment of 100 flogs)……???
Never lie, never backbite, never disobey your parents even if they are Non-Muslims……
And saying never follow the footsteps o Satan because he is your enemy…..
So you are saying that Satan has changed his mind and become a good person???
Laughing Out Really Loud!!!!
Is this the best u can do???
Is your Holy spirit on vacation because U r not trying hard enough bro….!!!
Q.9
Muslims, Why will there be an anti Christ rather than an anti Muhammad?
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My Response:
In Islam, it has a specific name i.e. Dajjal…..
It is Christians who named Dajjal as Anti-Christ…..
SAHIH BUKHARI, BOOK 55: Prophets
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553:
Narrated Ibn Umar:
Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."
For the sake of argument
Lets consider his name is Anti-Christ….
Even then we don’t have a problem with this name!!
An Anti-Christ is always and Anti-Muhammad and Anti-All Prophets….
And Anti-Muhammad is also the same!!
Q.10:
Muslims, Why is Christ returning?
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My Response:
He will return because he is the only prophet whose followers think that he is God…..
And when he will return….
The story is mentioned in the Noble Quran and the Bible as follows:
And behold. God will say: "O Jesus son of Mary! Did´st thou say unto men,
Worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?" He will say: "Glory to Thee!
Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing,
Thou would´st indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart,
though I know not what is in Thine. For thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
Never said I to them aught except what Thou did´st command me to say,
to wit, worship God, my Lord and your Lord." (HOLY QURAN 5:119-120).
"Not everyone who says to me, ?Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, ?Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, ?
I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:21-23
