Introduction
This is the 3rd part of “Refuting Djmntx”….I suggest u do a word search by holding ctrl + f…..
Note:
Djmntx has a habit of posting a single question at least 10 times....
so i will not refute every question...
but if u think i have to answer his certain question, then contact me here
Questions
Q.1
Are Jinns demons? Why were they never seen before Muhammad?
Did Muhammad cominucate with beings that could have been demons? Did other prophets also talk with demons? Why are they in no other scriptures and why not seen by all of the prophets? When did God created these beings? What is their purpose?
My point from a religious point these things would have been considered demons by the prophets of old...Why are Muslims believing in them when they were not a part of previous scripture?
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My Response:
Well I disagree that Jinns are demons,
If I talk in a Biblical language….
Then Jinns are a type of angels….
Why do I say this???
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; (2 Peter 2:4)
(1). Angels have their own food (Psalms 78:25)
(2). Angels are destined for Heaven or Hell (2 Peter 2:4)
According to the Bible, angels eat food:
Men ate the bread of angels; he sent them all the food they could eat. (Psalms 78:25, NIV)
Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full. (KJV)
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. (Hebrews 1:7)
As Allah says in Holy Quran:
“And the jinn He created from, a smokeless flame of fire.” (C 55: V 15)
“And indeed: We created man from dried (sounding) clay and altered mud. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.”(C15: V 26-27)
Q.2:
Did Allah deceive the people to believe that Christ was crucified?
4:157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
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My Response:
The verse does not say “Allah deceived them”, it said it appeared to them so, how can he say Allah deceived people??
Off course….He does not know a single word of Arabic that is why he is using this absurd theory….
Off course we can expect these types of lame arguments from him because his god sleeps!!
WAKE UP GOD !!
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[Psalm. 4:23]
Awake, why do you sleep, O Lord?
[Psalm. 4:23]
Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouts
by reason of wine.
Q.3:
Muslims, Did Allah lead people to believe Christ died for our
sins for 600 years till Muhammad?
Did Jesus also help perpetuate this deceptions by leading his people to believe he died? Is Jesus and Allah so evil? Did Muhmmad tell thaem how wrong this was? What happened to the Gospel Allah gave to Jesus? The Gospel that was around at the time Allah sent the Qu'ran was written after Jesus ...So why didn't Allah tell people that this was a wrong copy but he called it Guidence and Light was this a lie too? Say to the people of the book we agree with the revealtion handed down to you....didnt he know what people were studying? Was he sill in agreement? Isnt Allah all knowing didnt he know if he led people to think Jesus was killed they would have known it to be the prophesy of Isiah 53....or did Allah not know about that prophesy?
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My Response:
First…
I have already refuted his many questions he asked here…….
Secondly…..
It is the sinners fault not God’s or any Prophet’s fault…..
Surah 7:147-148
Those who deny Our revelations and the meeting of the Hereafter, their works are fruitless. Are they requited aught save what they used to do? And the folk of Moses, after (he left them), chose a calf (for worship), (made) out of their ornaments, of saffron hue, which gave a lowing sound. Saw they not that it spake not unto them nor guided them to any way ? They chose it, and became wrong-doers.
So u see??
Holy Quran has answer to his every question…
When Moses left,
People started worshipping a calf….
Now Is that Moses’ fault??
Certainly No!!
In this way, Jesus Christ came to this word to preach oneness of God, and not all that Trinity lies…..!!!
The book of Ezekiel and the Old Testament clearly and directly
refutes the "Salvation through trinity" lie!
"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. (From the King James Version Bible, Isaiah 43:11)"
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4)"
" "But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself. "Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself." (From the NIV Bible, Ezekiel 3:19-21)"
Q.4:
Muslims, Why was Jesus spared the cross yet sent back to die?
Does Allah have a problem with the cross? Is there some point to saving someone from death and sending him back to die? Can Allah save anyone if he can't save a perfect man? If Jesus can't be saved what are your chances?
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My Response:
Now what is he talking here??
It looks like has run out of questions and started saying absurd things….
Jesus Christ will only return to the earth before the Day of Judgment because he is the only Prophet who was accused of being claiming to be God……!!
And when he will return,
He will say these words:
And behold. God will say: "O Jesus son of Mary! Did´st thou say unto men,
Worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?" He will say: "Glory to Thee!
Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing,
Thou would´st indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart,
though I know not what is in Thine. For thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
Never said I to them aught except what Thou did´st command me to say,
to wit, worship God, my Lord and your Lord." (HOLY QURAN 5:119-120).
And it is mentioned in the Bible:
"Not everyone who says to me, ?Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, ?Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, ?
I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:21-23
Q.5:
Muslims is there a sura that says a man must talk softly when having dinner at the prophets house?
Was this such an issue in Islam that it needed to be scripture if Muhammad was the last prophet how many people was this scripture written for? Wouldnt a simple note on the prophets door suffice? Is this a corruption of scripture or are you guys still meeting at Muhammad's house for dinner? This question is located here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsqiSpStrLL62YiZPQgEWp_ty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070207022622AA3dd6v
My Response:
Ladies and Gentlemen its official!!
Djmntx has lost his mind….!!
What is he talking here???
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and the Quran which was revealed to him gave every single detail as to how live our day to day life….
It must be new to him because his book just talks about pornography, murder, mothers eating children, incest….
Islam is a beautiful religion, full of wisdom and harmony. If this wonderful religion is followed properly then a typical Muslim would only be a great example to follow.
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet never used bad language neither a 'Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say 'The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759)"
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet never used bad language neither a "Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say "The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759)"
Narrated Masruq: "Abdullah bin 'Amr mentioned Allah's Apostle saying that he was neither a Fahish nor a Mutafahish. Abdullah bin 'Amr added, Allah's Apostle said, 'The best among you are those who have the best manners and character.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 56)"
Narrated Masruq: "We were sitting with 'Abdullah bin 'Amr who was narrating to us (Hadith): He said, "Allah's Apostle was neither a Fahish nor a Mutafahhish, and he used to say, 'The best among you are the best in character (having good manners)."' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 61)"
Let us look at what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet said, "Whoever has the following four (characteristics) will be a pure hypocrite and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy unless and until he gives it up.
1. Whenever he is entrusted, he betrays.
2. Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie.
3. Whenever he makes a covenant, he proves treacherous.
4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 33)"
Q.6:
Why do Muslims speak ill of their God and his prophets?
If Allah says the Bible is his Holy word and Moses and all were his prophets why do Muslims blaspheme their own God?
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My Response:
I think this creep has really lost his mind….
I have already proven that Bible is corrupted and how Muslims believe In Injeel and not in the Bible….
Does the word “Bible” appears in the Bible as “Quran” appears in the Quran??
Certainly No….
It is not Muslims who blaspheme against their own God and his prophets, but it is Christians who do so!!!
PROPHETS BUT NAKED !
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[Gen 9:21]
Noah drank of the wine, and became drunk, and lay uncovered in his tent.
and Ham [his son] saw the NAKEDNESS of his father.
[1 Sam. 19:23]
And the spirit of God came upon Saul.. And he too STRIPPED OFF HIS
CLOTHES, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay NAKED all the day
and all the night.
[2 Sam. 6:20]
David DANCES NAKED before the people and before the Lord.
[Exo. 15:20]
And so his sister Mariam the Prophetess dances, she took a tremble and
dances with the women.
DOES HE ABUSE HIMSELF ?!
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[Jer. 10:18]
For thus says the Lord, Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous.
Q.7:
Muslims 7:157 says the unlettered prophet is written in the Bible can someone tell me where I can find this?
7:157. "Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper."
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My Response:
"And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, [I pray thee]: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, [I pray thee]: and he saith, I am not learned. Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, [even] a marvelous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise [men] shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us? Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? [Is] it not yet a very little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest? And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness." (Isaiah 29:11-18)
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was illiterate. His entire life he never learned to read nor write. The exact circumstances of this first revelation were as follows: It was the habit of Muhammad (peace be upon him) to frequently remove himself from the midst of his fellow Arabs and their heathenistic actions and spend many days secluded in the cave of "Hiraa" in the mountains of Makkah where he would pray to God according to the religion of Abraham (peace be upon him). After many years of this, and having reached the age of forty (610AD), the angel Gabriel suddenly appeared before him and ordered him to "Iqra!" (read, recite, repeat, proclaim). Muhammad (peace be upon him), in his terror thought he was being asked to read, so he stammered: "I am unlettered." The angel Gabriel again ordered him to "Iqra!" Muhammad (peace be upon him) again replied: "I am unlettered." The angel Gabriel now took a firm hold of him and commanded him "Iqraa in the name of Allah who created!". Now Muhammad (peace be upon him) began to understand that he was not being asked to read, but to recite, to repeat. He began to repeat after him, and Gabriel revealed to him the first verses of the Qur'an, those at the beginning of the chapter of Al-Alak(96):
"Read(Iqraa): In the name of your Lord who created, Created man from a clot. Read(Iqraa): And your Lord is the Most Bounteous, Who teaches by the pen, Teaches man that which he knew not." (The noble Qur'an, Al-Alak(96):1-5)
Q.8:
Is Allah a righteous God?
Does he merely overlook sin? Do two rights cover one wrong?
Can a sinful man work his own way to perfection? Does Allah owe his creation salvation if they earn it? Is this righteous? If a man does a a sin can he ever make it go away? Seems to be no matter how many so called good deeds you do if you commit a sin it does not go away and you reamain a sinner and for God to agree with your sin or overlook your sin he has become unrighteous calling an unclean thing clean. The true god does not overlook sin he said all have sinned and fallen short and the wages of sin is death. This is proved by the fact that man does die. God had a plan to bring man to his righteousness not overlook man's sin . This way was to pay the penalty of death for man. It is the reason Jesus said no man comes to the Father but through the Son, who did make the way for man to be joined to God. This question is located here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Av0qhfwj71jHlauGthXdEj7ty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070425115438AAy6USU
My Response:
Well at least our God is not suicidal……
Allah says in Holy Quran:
[040:020] Allah decides and concludes everything with justice. Those others they pray to beside Him, decide (absolutely) nothing. Allah is certainly the One Who hears and sees (all).
[004:124] If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them.
It is there wild imagination that a person who is God comes, commits suicide and saves the entire universe from hell fire…..
Is that Justice??
U eat the food, Jesus pays for it…
U park the car, Jesus pays for it…..
U commit adultery, Jesus pays for it….
U commit incest, Jesus pays for it…
How many years will Jesus live in Hell if he had to pay for the sins Hitler committed??
“Greater the sin, greater the redemption”
Q.9:
Muslims, Why in the Qu'ran does Allah refer to himslef in the plural?
Did Muhammad learn this from the true word of God...where God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit and they are one God?
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My Response:
U have to prove from the Bible that anything as absurd as trinity exists….
Which u can’t do it…..
The word “Trinity” does not appear any where in the Bible….!!!
Islam is a strictly monotheistic religion. It believes in and adheres to uncompromising monotheism. It believes that God is one, and unique in His attributes. In the Qur’an, God often refers to Himself using the word ‘We’. But this does not mean that Islam believes in the existence of more than one God.
Two types of plural
In several languages, there are two types of plurals, one is a plural of numbers to refer to something that occurs in a quantity of more than one. The other plural is a plural of respect.
In the English language, the Queen of England refers to herself as ‘We’ instead of ‘I’. This is known as the ‘royal plural’.
Rajiv Gandhi, the ex-Prime Minister of India used to say in Hindi "Hum dekhna chahte hain". "We want to see." ‘Hum’ means ‘We’ which is again a royal plural in Hindi.
Similarly in Arabic, when Allah refers to Himself in the Qur’an, He often uses Arabic word 'Nahnu' meaning ‘We’. It does not indicate plural of number but plural of respect.
Tawheed or monotheism is one of the pillars of Islam. The existence and uniqueness of one and only one God is mentioned several times in the Qur’an. For instance in Surah Ikhlas, it says:
"Say He is Allah the One and Only." [Al-Qur’an 112:1]
Q.10:
Muslims, Sura 4:157 presents the Jews as saying, ‘we slew the Messiah Jesus...Jews admited Jesus was Messiah?
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My Response:
Allah says in Holy Quran :
[004:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Jews also never believed that Jesus Christ was the Apostle of God….
So what is the point here??
Allah Almighty is praising Jesus Christ with so many names here……
Apostle of God!!!
He is explaining that to us,
Do you have a problem with it???
Allah is explaining to us who Jesus Christ is...He is the son of Mary, He is the Messiah, He is the Apostle of God, then he explained to us what Jews said about Jesus Christ
